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Andrew affirmed for two days "salvation before baptism." He spent half of time attacking Campbellism. He said he loved to hand "Campbellites" up, puncture their feet, and let the water out. The logical sequence of Freed's doctrine was to be dipped or be damned. Alexander Campbell was first man who ever taught water salvation. The Old Testament contained more gospel than New Testament and taught salvation plainly. "Did Moses or the prophets teach baptism for the remission of sins?" He tried to keep the New Testament out of his arguments.
Bro. Freed showed that Andrews had not defined the terms of his proposition and was attacking a negative before a word had been said. No gentleman would call his opponent a "Campbellite" or "Grinnell fish". If he was after a mud fish, he would raise his cork and go after him, but he washed later. If Andrews' argument on Old Testament were correct, there would be no need for the Baptist Church. God's plan has been hearing, believing, and obeying in all ages; the plan is the same, but the conditions in the plan have been changed.
Andrews: You Campbellities have organized a laughing committee to try to make fun of me, but you can laugh on. I have went (shades of Murray, what grammar!) to the finest Baptist seminary in the world. Mr. Freed ought to get Aquila and Priscilla to instruct him; he needs it. I will have to say to him as Paul said to Elymas, Acts 13:10 - Paul never said a word about baptism to the jailer.
Freed: You are a promising young man (about 50, and married the first time a few months ago) I have given you 110 questions and not one answered. You are the last man in the world to talk about water salvation. You belong to a church that is built upon water, named after water, and you have to go through water to get into it. You have been going over this country yelling "Campbellism," but he won't do it any more, brethren. He likes to 'chaw' rags [referring to Bro. Freed's charts], but Baptist doctrine is so thin that it will run through rags.
Mr. W. H. Berry, Presbyterian preacher, said he should be sent back home to get rid of him.
Andrews: Mark 16:9-20 is not part of the Bible.
Freed: Pendleton's Baptist Manual calls it good scripture; the Bible Union Testament (Baptist translation) contains it; King James, the Revised Version, Westcott and Hort's Greek New Testament; Tischendorf shows it is found in more than 500 Greek manuscripts; in the Syrian and Coptic and even in the Gothic version and only wanting in the Vatican and Siniatic, as given by the testimony of Eusebius and Jerome. The witnesses stand more than 500 against two. Then Freed took 80 questions Andrews had asked and answered them in ten minutes. There is not a single blessing in the world that cannot be obtained outside the Baptist Church.
Andrews: I was baptized for the same purpose as Jesus Christ. I was baptized because of remission of sins, and he was baptized because he had no sins. You can laugh, sir, as much as you please.
Freed made a fine speech in conclusion.
Andrews closing speech was an appeal for sympathy. The thought of defeat troubled him. He is 50 years old, has had 23 debates. The Baptists of Arkansas call him their champion defender. He is in reality a colossal ignoramus. His knowledge of Greek makes him a smatterer and just enough Greek to make a fool of him.
Bro. Freed is 39 years old and has had 37 debates. His ability and attainments are too well known to mention here. Three Baptist preachers attended and many gospel preachers.
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A. G. Freed vs Elder A. A. Andrews (Missionary Baptist)
August 29, 1901
Palestine, Arkansas
(A. G. Freed, President of Georgia Robertson Christian College)
August 29, 1901
Palestine, Arkansas
(A. G. Freed, President of Georgia Robertson Christian College)
Andrew affirmed for two days "salvation before baptism." He spent half of time attacking Campbellism. He said he loved to hand "Campbellites" up, puncture their feet, and let the water out. The logical sequence of Freed's doctrine was to be dipped or be damned. Alexander Campbell was first man who ever taught water salvation. The Old Testament contained more gospel than New Testament and taught salvation plainly. "Did Moses or the prophets teach baptism for the remission of sins?" He tried to keep the New Testament out of his arguments.
Bro. Freed showed that Andrews had not defined the terms of his proposition and was attacking a negative before a word had been said. No gentleman would call his opponent a "Campbellite" or "Grinnell fish". If he was after a mud fish, he would raise his cork and go after him, but he washed later. If Andrews' argument on Old Testament were correct, there would be no need for the Baptist Church. God's plan has been hearing, believing, and obeying in all ages; the plan is the same, but the conditions in the plan have been changed.
Andrews: You Campbellities have organized a laughing committee to try to make fun of me, but you can laugh on. I have went (shades of Murray, what grammar!) to the finest Baptist seminary in the world. Mr. Freed ought to get Aquila and Priscilla to instruct him; he needs it. I will have to say to him as Paul said to Elymas, Acts 13:10 - Paul never said a word about baptism to the jailer.
Freed: You are a promising young man (about 50, and married the first time a few months ago) I have given you 110 questions and not one answered. You are the last man in the world to talk about water salvation. You belong to a church that is built upon water, named after water, and you have to go through water to get into it. You have been going over this country yelling "Campbellism," but he won't do it any more, brethren. He likes to 'chaw' rags [referring to Bro. Freed's charts], but Baptist doctrine is so thin that it will run through rags.
Mr. W. H. Berry, Presbyterian preacher, said he should be sent back home to get rid of him.
Andrews: Mark 16:9-20 is not part of the Bible.
Freed: Pendleton's Baptist Manual calls it good scripture; the Bible Union Testament (Baptist translation) contains it; King James, the Revised Version, Westcott and Hort's Greek New Testament; Tischendorf shows it is found in more than 500 Greek manuscripts; in the Syrian and Coptic and even in the Gothic version and only wanting in the Vatican and Siniatic, as given by the testimony of Eusebius and Jerome. The witnesses stand more than 500 against two. Then Freed took 80 questions Andrews had asked and answered them in ten minutes. There is not a single blessing in the world that cannot be obtained outside the Baptist Church.
Andrews: I was baptized for the same purpose as Jesus Christ. I was baptized because of remission of sins, and he was baptized because he had no sins. You can laugh, sir, as much as you please.
Freed made a fine speech in conclusion.
Andrews closing speech was an appeal for sympathy. The thought of defeat troubled him. He is 50 years old, has had 23 debates. The Baptists of Arkansas call him their champion defender. He is in reality a colossal ignoramus. His knowledge of Greek makes him a smatterer and just enough Greek to make a fool of him.
Bro. Freed is 39 years old and has had 37 debates. His ability and attainments are too well known to mention here. Three Baptist preachers attended and many gospel preachers.
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