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Bogard affirmed but spent two speeches on negative of apostasy. He took up passages he expected Bro. Freed to rely on to prove apostasy and tried to show that these did not prove it. Bro. Freed told Bogard that he (Freed) could admit everything that he had said and it would not prove Bogard's proposition.
Bogard argued that Judas was never saved and quoted: "Of them which thou gavest me have I lost none." Bogard insisted that Judas was lost, and therefore this scripture shows that Judas was never given to Jesus. Bro. Freed quoted from prayer of Jesus and quoted John 18:8-9.
Bogard took case of King Saul, and on that case he said Saul was saved, but his mind, was, therefore, irresponsible. God would never charge anything against one of his children who became crazy. Bro. Freed had a note from C. R. Nichol who, in debate a few days before, took the position that Saul was never a child of God; that the Spirit only came "upon" Saul, and did not enter "into" him. That would also prove that the Holy Spirit did not enter the apostles or Cornelius, as it said: "And as I began to speak, the Holy Ghost fell on them, as on us at the beginning" (Acts 11:15). But the funny thing to me was that Bogard can teach either system, either "the round or the flat." I suppose he tried the "round system" with Nichol and got along so badly that he tried the "flat system" with Freed.
Bogard argued from chart (I Peter 1:5). Of course this is true; but the power of God is the gospel, and the condition on the part of man is faith. Bro. Freed replied by asking: "How can faith that has been 'shipwrecked' hold one to the power of God by which he is kept?"
Bogard said Baptists did not attend debate because they were not his kind of Baptist. The truth is, they hated to hear their erroneous doctrine exposed.
Freed challenged Bogard to repeat debate at Little Rock. We furnished house and audience in Nashville. The Baptists should furnish house and part of audience in Little Rock. Bogard agreed and signed propositions.
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A. G. Freed vs Ben Bogard (Baptist)
February 17, 1927
(By F. B. Srygley)
February 17, 1927
(By F. B. Srygley)
Bogard affirmed but spent two speeches on negative of apostasy. He took up passages he expected Bro. Freed to rely on to prove apostasy and tried to show that these did not prove it. Bro. Freed told Bogard that he (Freed) could admit everything that he had said and it would not prove Bogard's proposition.
Bogard argued that Judas was never saved and quoted: "Of them which thou gavest me have I lost none." Bogard insisted that Judas was lost, and therefore this scripture shows that Judas was never given to Jesus. Bro. Freed quoted from prayer of Jesus and quoted John 18:8-9.
Bogard took case of King Saul, and on that case he said Saul was saved, but his mind, was, therefore, irresponsible. God would never charge anything against one of his children who became crazy. Bro. Freed had a note from C. R. Nichol who, in debate a few days before, took the position that Saul was never a child of God; that the Spirit only came "upon" Saul, and did not enter "into" him. That would also prove that the Holy Spirit did not enter the apostles or Cornelius, as it said: "And as I began to speak, the Holy Ghost fell on them, as on us at the beginning" (Acts 11:15). But the funny thing to me was that Bogard can teach either system, either "the round or the flat." I suppose he tried the "round system" with Nichol and got along so badly that he tried the "flat system" with Freed.
Bogard argued from chart (I Peter 1:5). Of course this is true; but the power of God is the gospel, and the condition on the part of man is faith. Bro. Freed replied by asking: "How can faith that has been 'shipwrecked' hold one to the power of God by which he is kept?"
Bogard said Baptists did not attend debate because they were not his kind of Baptist. The truth is, they hated to hear their erroneous doctrine exposed.
Freed challenged Bogard to repeat debate at Little Rock. We furnished house and audience in Nashville. The Baptists should furnish house and part of audience in Little Rock. Bogard agreed and signed propositions.
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