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Debated near Charleston, TX.
The subjects were: 1) baptism for the remission of sins, 2) the direct operation of the Spirit in conversion of alien sinners, 3) close communion as practiced by the missionary Baptist church.
On the baptism question Lawrence put up the usual Baptist arguments, I pressured him on Matt. 26:28 and Acts 2:38 - was word for word and letter for letter identical in both passages. He admitted that the sinner's sins were not declared remitted until after baptism, and cited Acts 22:26 to prove Saul was recognized a sinner until after baptism. This plain declaration from him did not sound very Baptistic.
On the direct operation of the Spirit, Lawrence surrendered his proposition when he said the Spirit doesn't operate directly, but indirectly, and admitted that the Spirit gave a law (Rom. 8:2) and that obedience to that law secures salvation (Rom. 8:2; 6:17). This sounds considerably like what is commonly called (by the sects) "Campbellism," and sounds to me like the teaching of primitive Christians.
On the communion proposition he put up the poorest argument I ever heard by a Baptist, notwithstanding he is considered the ablest Baptist in Texas. He said all baptized believers were disciples, but he would not commune with them because they were not baptized by a Baptist preacher.
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G. C. Isabella vs J. M. Lawrence (Missionary Baptist)
May 17, 1900
Near Charleston, Texas
(By G. C. Isabella)
May 17, 1900
Near Charleston, Texas
(By G. C. Isabella)
Debated near Charleston, TX.
The subjects were: 1) baptism for the remission of sins, 2) the direct operation of the Spirit in conversion of alien sinners, 3) close communion as practiced by the missionary Baptist church.
On the baptism question Lawrence put up the usual Baptist arguments, I pressured him on Matt. 26:28 and Acts 2:38 - was word for word and letter for letter identical in both passages. He admitted that the sinner's sins were not declared remitted until after baptism, and cited Acts 22:26 to prove Saul was recognized a sinner until after baptism. This plain declaration from him did not sound very Baptistic.
On the direct operation of the Spirit, Lawrence surrendered his proposition when he said the Spirit doesn't operate directly, but indirectly, and admitted that the Spirit gave a law (Rom. 8:2) and that obedience to that law secures salvation (Rom. 8:2; 6:17). This sounds considerably like what is commonly called (by the sects) "Campbellism," and sounds to me like the teaching of primitive Christians.
On the communion proposition he put up the poorest argument I ever heard by a Baptist, notwithstanding he is considered the ablest Baptist in Texas. He said all baptized believers were disciples, but he would not commune with them because they were not baptized by a Baptist preacher.
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