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July 12-15 at Rapesville, TX.
The subjects were: Class question, plurality of classes, women teachers in same classes. The debate held on high plane. Bro. Moore presented his arguments in a firm and convincing manner, and he answered bro. Johnson's arguments so straight forward that any one who had an open mind could not help but seem the truth. Bro. Johnson's main argument was on the comma in I Tim.2:12, making I suffer not a woman to teach" an absolute statement with no restrictions, yet admitted that a woman could teach in private. He made no attempt to show how a woman could make the public confession and still be in harmony with I Tim.2:12. He denied that a woman taught by singing in worship (as per Col.3:16) by stating that all singing was directed to God. He stated that to be scriptural we must have Bible authority for every detail in the worship. When asked for such details, he cited I Cor.14, much of which deals with prophesying and speaking in tongues.
When pressed for his authority for a singing school conducted by the church, he gave the example of a singing school in the O.T. Johnson said the church in supporting singing schools was parallel to the public school rather than the class system of teaching. To prove his arguments at various times he tread or quoted from unauthorized versions of the Bible, taking their interpretations as higher authority that the K. J., American Standard Revised versions of the Bible
Bro. Mayer proved by Mk. 9:16 that Jesus taught a class while his disciples were near by teaching another group; that there were two groups meeting at the same time in Acts 12:12-17; that on Acts 5:25 the twelve apostles were all in the temple teaching at one time; and in the case of Ananias and Sapphira (Acts 5) the apostles were assembled; and when Sapphira came in, Peter required her, a woman, to speak in that church assembly, thus apparently causing her to disobey I Tim. 2:12. He also showed by Matt. 28:19-20 that we are not given instructions on how to teach any more that we are on how to go, because both are generic terms. The crowds were good. Some came 450 miles.
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J. Loyd Mayer vs Alua Johnson (Class Question)
September 22, 1949
Rapesville, Texas
(By Claude O. Moore)
September 22, 1949
Rapesville, Texas
(By Claude O. Moore)
July 12-15 at Rapesville, TX.
The subjects were: Class question, plurality of classes, women teachers in same classes. The debate held on high plane. Bro. Moore presented his arguments in a firm and convincing manner, and he answered bro. Johnson's arguments so straight forward that any one who had an open mind could not help but seem the truth. Bro. Johnson's main argument was on the comma in I Tim.2:12, making I suffer not a woman to teach" an absolute statement with no restrictions, yet admitted that a woman could teach in private. He made no attempt to show how a woman could make the public confession and still be in harmony with I Tim.2:12. He denied that a woman taught by singing in worship (as per Col.3:16) by stating that all singing was directed to God. He stated that to be scriptural we must have Bible authority for every detail in the worship. When asked for such details, he cited I Cor.14, much of which deals with prophesying and speaking in tongues.
When pressed for his authority for a singing school conducted by the church, he gave the example of a singing school in the O.T. Johnson said the church in supporting singing schools was parallel to the public school rather than the class system of teaching. To prove his arguments at various times he tread or quoted from unauthorized versions of the Bible, taking their interpretations as higher authority that the K. J., American Standard Revised versions of the Bible
Bro. Mayer proved by Mk. 9:16 that Jesus taught a class while his disciples were near by teaching another group; that there were two groups meeting at the same time in Acts 12:12-17; that on Acts 5:25 the twelve apostles were all in the temple teaching at one time; and in the case of Ananias and Sapphira (Acts 5) the apostles were assembled; and when Sapphira came in, Peter required her, a woman, to speak in that church assembly, thus apparently causing her to disobey I Tim. 2:12. He also showed by Matt. 28:19-20 that we are not given instructions on how to teach any more that we are on how to go, because both are generic terms. The crowds were good. Some came 450 miles.
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