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Debated at church of Christ, Dec. 15-18, in Hickory Ridge, Ark.
Each conducted himself in an honorable way. Both had many debates and dealt with subject and not personalities. Bogard said this was hi 190th debate. He is the best debater among Baptist. But bro. Nichol was more than equal to the task. His great ability is not surpassed as a preacher and debater. Friendship did not cause Nichol to sacrifice truth or to spare his opponent.
Bogard affirmed: kingdom set up during ministry of Christ. He said it didn't matter when it was established but said: "I believe it was established while Christ was on earth." If we did not know when the kingdom was established, we could not know the laws of entrance into it, and whether we are in or out of the kingdom. Mr. Bogard said: "The law of the Spirit of life began at the cross, and Christ worked 40 days in the kingdom before he ascended." Bro. Nichol replied: "Christ's personal ministry ended at the cross. Since the law of the Spirit of life came; and Bogard being my witness, the kingdom was not established during the personal ministry of Christ. Again, we cannot have a N.T. Church without a testament" (Heb.9).
Mr. Bogard contended that baptism was not a part of the gospel, and based his argument on I Cor. 15:1-4. Bro. Nichol replied: "Paul preached the gospel to them first; and Acts 18:8 says they heard, believed and were baptized, and Paul says they had required baptism." Bogard said: "A man does not have to obey God to be saved." (Hard shell theory)
Bogard affirmed: Operation of the H.S. in addition to the word. He said: "All are depraved by nature, and the best thing an unconverted man can do is to commit sin. If he pays a debt, goes to sleep, or does anything else, it is a sin." He gave I Cor. 10:31 as proof. Bro. Nichol asked him what was wrong in going to sleep. Bogard said: "He has a case of 'can't help its.'" Bro. Nichol answered: "Since the baby can't help going to sleep, it sins, and can't help it according to Baptist doctrine. The Baptist teach that if a man commits rape or any other kind of crime, it is natural and he can't help it." Bogard replied: "Make it as hard as you can, Nichol; I will say 'amen' to all you can think of." Bro. Nichol showed that Paul was writing to Christians and not to alien sinners.
Bro. Nichol affirmed: Possibility of apostasy. He argued; if a man call his father a fool, he shall be in danger of hell fire. "Can a man call his father a fool? If so, Jesus says he is in danger of hell fire." Bogard answered: "If I could jump over that table into hell, I would be there, too. It would only be an act of the flesh to call your brother a fool; but the flesh is not born of God." Then bro. Nichol read Matt. 15:19 showing that "evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, theft, railings came out of the heart. He used I Cor. 15 (revised version) and showed that "rejected" meant "reprobate" as used in II Cor. 4:9; Rom. 1:28; II Tim. 3:3. "Ye are severed from Christ, ye who would be justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace" (Gal. 5:4).
Visiting preachers : Joe Blue (who moderated), J. H. Harper, J. L. Glover, W. O. Stroud, Allen Phy, Harvey Riggs, A. J. Veteto, Tom Glenn, R. L. Colley.
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C. R. Nichol vs Ben Bogard (Baptist)
January 7, 1926
Hickory Ridge, Arkansas
(By R. L. Colley)
January 7, 1926
Hickory Ridge, Arkansas
(By R. L. Colley)
Debated at church of Christ, Dec. 15-18, in Hickory Ridge, Ark.
Each conducted himself in an honorable way. Both had many debates and dealt with subject and not personalities. Bogard said this was hi 190th debate. He is the best debater among Baptist. But bro. Nichol was more than equal to the task. His great ability is not surpassed as a preacher and debater. Friendship did not cause Nichol to sacrifice truth or to spare his opponent.
Bogard affirmed: kingdom set up during ministry of Christ. He said it didn't matter when it was established but said: "I believe it was established while Christ was on earth." If we did not know when the kingdom was established, we could not know the laws of entrance into it, and whether we are in or out of the kingdom. Mr. Bogard said: "The law of the Spirit of life began at the cross, and Christ worked 40 days in the kingdom before he ascended." Bro. Nichol replied: "Christ's personal ministry ended at the cross. Since the law of the Spirit of life came; and Bogard being my witness, the kingdom was not established during the personal ministry of Christ. Again, we cannot have a N.T. Church without a testament" (Heb.9).
Mr. Bogard contended that baptism was not a part of the gospel, and based his argument on I Cor. 15:1-4. Bro. Nichol replied: "Paul preached the gospel to them first; and Acts 18:8 says they heard, believed and were baptized, and Paul says they had required baptism." Bogard said: "A man does not have to obey God to be saved." (Hard shell theory)
Bogard affirmed: Operation of the H.S. in addition to the word. He said: "All are depraved by nature, and the best thing an unconverted man can do is to commit sin. If he pays a debt, goes to sleep, or does anything else, it is a sin." He gave I Cor. 10:31 as proof. Bro. Nichol asked him what was wrong in going to sleep. Bogard said: "He has a case of 'can't help its.'" Bro. Nichol answered: "Since the baby can't help going to sleep, it sins, and can't help it according to Baptist doctrine. The Baptist teach that if a man commits rape or any other kind of crime, it is natural and he can't help it." Bogard replied: "Make it as hard as you can, Nichol; I will say 'amen' to all you can think of." Bro. Nichol showed that Paul was writing to Christians and not to alien sinners.
Bro. Nichol affirmed: Possibility of apostasy. He argued; if a man call his father a fool, he shall be in danger of hell fire. "Can a man call his father a fool? If so, Jesus says he is in danger of hell fire." Bogard answered: "If I could jump over that table into hell, I would be there, too. It would only be an act of the flesh to call your brother a fool; but the flesh is not born of God." Then bro. Nichol read Matt. 15:19 showing that "evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, theft, railings came out of the heart. He used I Cor. 15 (revised version) and showed that "rejected" meant "reprobate" as used in II Cor. 4:9; Rom. 1:28; II Tim. 3:3. "Ye are severed from Christ, ye who would be justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace" (Gal. 5:4).
Visiting preachers : Joe Blue (who moderated), J. H. Harper, J. L. Glover, W. O. Stroud, Allen Phy, Harvey Riggs, A. J. Veteto, Tom Glenn, R. L. Colley.
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