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I have just closed a fine debate with Ben Bogard of Texarkana, Tx, and followed the debate with a good meeting. I found Bogard weaker than he was in any of our former debates. He has taken so many different positions against the truth that he seldom takes a stand that does not contradict some position he had taken in former debates. Here are some of his false teachings.
1. Everything we do before conversion is a sin in the sight of God: E.g., breath we draw, water we drink. The little child two years old is hungry and cries to nurse at the mother's breast, in so doing commits sin. The honest man who pays his debts, or waits on the sick, or hears the gospel preached before conversion, commits sin. Such is Baptist doctrine.
2. Noah was really saved 100 years before the flood, and his salvation by water as taught in I Pet. 3:21 is only a figure of his real salvation.
3. Our salvation by baptism is only a figure of real salvation in Christ before baptism.
4. God is the Father of all Baptists and that grace is their mother; but Bogard would not tell whether grace was masculine, feminine or neuter gender.
5. He said that God could spew out a whole church as taught in Rev., but could not spew out a single member. Bogard claimed that God could spew out the Jewish nation, but could not spew our Daniel and Ezekiel with them.
6. He contended that Mk.16:16 is genuine, and had it on his chart, all of which showed that he had changed since meeting bro. Freed and Warlick, as, when debating with them, he argued Mk. 16:9-20 was spurious.
7. He contended that "Baptist" was a God-given name to John and we should wear that name. (Baptist is not a God- given name. "His name is John." Lk. 1:63)
8. He claimed that the church is not yet married to Christ, but will be when he comes again. Hall, Dupont and Harrell and all other noted Baptists claim that the church was married to Christ during his ministry.
9. I made the argument that when two proposition are connected by the conjunction "and," whatsoever is affirmed of one is also affirmed of the other. Bogard said that that would do in Mk. 16:16; but he said that "and" is a verb in Acts 2:38 and could not connect "repent" and "be baptized" as on is "singular" and the other is "plural." Bogard, as we can see, is an authority on grammar.
10. He claimed that the children of Israel were all in Moses the night of the passover, and 14 days later were baptized into Moses in "eis" the cloud and in "eis" the sea as a figure to show that they were literally in Moses 14 days before they were baptized.
11. Cornelius was child of God and had the Holy Ghost before he had faith or had heard Peter, as Peter said, "as I began to speak, the Holy Ghost fell on them, as on us at the beginning." (Acts 11:15)
12. He claimed that king Saul was a child of God, that God sent an evil spirit up him and Saul went crazy and killed himself, and that no crazy man is responsible; therefore, Saul went right on to heaven to be with Samuel.
13. No one could bear fruit or work righteousness till in the vine, and baptism is a work of righteousness; so no one could be baptized into Christ until he got into him.
14. He claimed that Dr. Hackett and Willmarth, noted Baptist scholars, were not true Baptist in translating "eis" (Acts 2:38) "in order to," but had been sidetracked by Campbellite doctrine.
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J. D. Tant
Fallacies of Ben M. Bogard
November 17, 1927
Fallacies of Ben M. Bogard
November 17, 1927
I have just closed a fine debate with Ben Bogard of Texarkana, Tx, and followed the debate with a good meeting. I found Bogard weaker than he was in any of our former debates. He has taken so many different positions against the truth that he seldom takes a stand that does not contradict some position he had taken in former debates. Here are some of his false teachings.
1. Everything we do before conversion is a sin in the sight of God: E.g., breath we draw, water we drink. The little child two years old is hungry and cries to nurse at the mother's breast, in so doing commits sin. The honest man who pays his debts, or waits on the sick, or hears the gospel preached before conversion, commits sin. Such is Baptist doctrine.
2. Noah was really saved 100 years before the flood, and his salvation by water as taught in I Pet. 3:21 is only a figure of his real salvation.
3. Our salvation by baptism is only a figure of real salvation in Christ before baptism.
4. God is the Father of all Baptists and that grace is their mother; but Bogard would not tell whether grace was masculine, feminine or neuter gender.
5. He said that God could spew out a whole church as taught in Rev., but could not spew out a single member. Bogard claimed that God could spew out the Jewish nation, but could not spew our Daniel and Ezekiel with them.
6. He contended that Mk.16:16 is genuine, and had it on his chart, all of which showed that he had changed since meeting bro. Freed and Warlick, as, when debating with them, he argued Mk. 16:9-20 was spurious.
7. He contended that "Baptist" was a God-given name to John and we should wear that name. (Baptist is not a God- given name. "His name is John." Lk. 1:63)
8. He claimed that the church is not yet married to Christ, but will be when he comes again. Hall, Dupont and Harrell and all other noted Baptists claim that the church was married to Christ during his ministry.
9. I made the argument that when two proposition are connected by the conjunction "and," whatsoever is affirmed of one is also affirmed of the other. Bogard said that that would do in Mk. 16:16; but he said that "and" is a verb in Acts 2:38 and could not connect "repent" and "be baptized" as on is "singular" and the other is "plural." Bogard, as we can see, is an authority on grammar.
10. He claimed that the children of Israel were all in Moses the night of the passover, and 14 days later were baptized into Moses in "eis" the cloud and in "eis" the sea as a figure to show that they were literally in Moses 14 days before they were baptized.
11. Cornelius was child of God and had the Holy Ghost before he had faith or had heard Peter, as Peter said, "as I began to speak, the Holy Ghost fell on them, as on us at the beginning." (Acts 11:15)
12. He claimed that king Saul was a child of God, that God sent an evil spirit up him and Saul went crazy and killed himself, and that no crazy man is responsible; therefore, Saul went right on to heaven to be with Samuel.
13. No one could bear fruit or work righteousness till in the vine, and baptism is a work of righteousness; so no one could be baptized into Christ until he got into him.
14. He claimed that Dr. Hackett and Willmarth, noted Baptist scholars, were not true Baptist in translating "eis" (Acts 2:38) "in order to," but had been sidetracked by Campbellite doctrine.
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